Comments on: Will the new 50th Ward alderman build the bike bridge Berny blocked? http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/ Reporting on sustainable transportation issues and culture in Chicago (WF) Wed, 16 May 2012 19:56:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John Greenfield http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-2345 John Greenfield Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:56:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-2345 I got this info from Janet Attarian from CDOT, who's working on this project - she must have the most ac curate info on this. Time for an update on this though. I'll check in with the alderman's office or CDOT. I got this info from Janet Attarian from CDOT, who’s working on this project – she must have the most ac curate info on this. Time for an update on this though. I’ll check in with the alderman’s office or CDOT.

]]> By: Sweet Old Bob http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-2344 Sweet Old Bob Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:30:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-2344  John, I don't think there's a conflict.  The canoe launch is down on the water, the bridge goes over the top of the water.  I think the bridge and the canoe launch could fit nicely together.  John, I don’t think there’s a conflict.  The canoe launch is down on the water, the bridge goes over the top of the water.  I think the bridge and the canoe launch could fit nicely together.

]]> By: Chris Johnston http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-2343 Chris Johnston Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:06:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-2343 Apparently, I am wrong, but I thought the bicycle bridge was planned at Pratt Blvd.  -Chris Apparently, I am wrong, but I thought the bicycle bridge was planned at Pratt Blvd.  -Chris

]]> By: Talking transportation with 27th Ward Alderman Walter Burnett Jr. | Grid Chicago http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-456 Talking transportation with 27th Ward Alderman Walter Burnett Jr. | Grid Chicago Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:03:21 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-456 [...] On the other hand, they can stand in the way of progress, like when former 50th Ward Alderman Berny Stone vetoed a bike bridge on the North Shore Channel Trail in West Rogers [...] [...] On the other hand, they can stand in the way of progress, like when former 50th Ward Alderman Berny Stone vetoed a bike bridge on the North Shore Channel Trail in West Rogers [...]

]]> By: Bob Kastigar http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-440 Bob Kastigar Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:44:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-440 Also, the bridge ramp up needs to meet the ADA disability requirements as well. The original play for the bridge was to have it cross the channel at an angle, to meet both the ADA needs as well as the boating needs on the channel. Also, the bridge ramp up needs to meet the ADA disability requirements as well. The original play for the bridge was to have it cross the channel at an angle, to meet both the ADA needs as well as the boating needs on the channel.

]]> By: John Greenfield http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-404 John Greenfield Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:42:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-404 It's funny that this project will probably named in honor of the politician who opposed it. It’s funny that this project will probably named in honor of the politician who opposed it.

]]> By: Steven Vance http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-403 Steven Vance Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:39:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-403 Excellent point, Duppie, about multiplying the value of each one. I wonder how many people coming from the south encounter this spot and do a u-turn and go back from where they came. Or they come from the north and make a similar u-turn. What's the value added if there's the connection, to points south and north of this break? What's the value added if this break had a proper exit point to Devon with bike lanes that led one to the business east and west of here? Excellent point, Duppie, about multiplying the value of each one.

I wonder how many people coming from the south encounter this spot and do a u-turn and go back from where they came. Or they come from the north and make a similar u-turn.
What’s the value added if there’s the connection, to points south and north of this break? What’s the value added if this break had a proper exit point to Devon with bike lanes that led one to the business east and west of here?

]]> By: Anonymous http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-402 Anonymous Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:33:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-402 I thought that the "canoe launch" was part of the bridge foundation built before the project got cut. Silly me... I ride by there a number a time a year, and I do not recall seeing canoes being launched there ever. But it is great to see that some discussion is taking place again about that bridge. It connects two existing trails, thereby "multiplying" the value of each one Nice article John! I thought that the “canoe launch” was part of the bridge foundation built before the project got cut. Silly me…
I ride by there a number a time a year, and I do not recall seeing canoes being launched there ever.

But it is great to see that some discussion is taking place again about that bridge. It connects two existing trails, thereby “multiplying” the value of each one

Nice article John!

]]> By: Steven Vance http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-401 Steven Vance Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:29:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-401 Stone Bridge Flyover? Stone Bridge Flyover?

]]> By: John Greenfield http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-400 John Greenfield Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:17:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-400 According to Janet Attarian, it's a tricky design problem because you have to take cyclists from the underpass, eight feet below street level, and take them up to bridge height, which may have to be high enough to let watercraft underneath, all within a relatively short distance. Tricky, but certainly not insurmountable. According to Janet Attarian, it’s a tricky design problem because you have to take cyclists from the underpass, eight feet below street level, and take them up to bridge height, which may have to be high enough to let watercraft underneath, all within a relatively short distance. Tricky, but certainly not insurmountable.

]]> By: Gregory Jay Valent http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-399 Gregory Jay Valent Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:38:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-399 On further viewing, moving the bridge north of the launch may even be better. Ready, fire, aim. On further viewing, moving the bridge north of the launch may even be better. Ready, fire, aim.

]]> By: Gregory Jay Valent http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-398 Gregory Jay Valent Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:36:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-398 As I recall the 'canoe launch' platform has been there as long as that portion of the trail. Does this mean that someone is actually using it ? According to the aerial view, as long as the bridge stays close to Lincoln, neither group of users should be impacted. http://maps.google.com/?ll=41.992411,-87.709997&spn=0.001393,0.002816&t=h&z=19 As I recall the ‘canoe launch’ platform has been there as long as that portion of the trail. Does this mean that someone is actually using it ? According to the aerial view, as long as the bridge stays close to Lincoln, neither group of users should be impacted.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=41.992411,-87.709997&spn=0.001393,0.002816&t=h&z=19

]]> By: John Greenfield http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-395 John Greenfield Thu, 11 Aug 2011 05:02:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-395 It does seem odd that they chose to place the canoe launch in the proposed bridge location. It does seem odd that they chose to place the canoe launch in the proposed bridge location.

]]> By: Daniel Howard http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-393 Daniel Howard Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:47:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-393 I grew up in the 50th Ward but moved to California over a decade ago. Its weird to hear that Bernie Stone is still alive, much less in power recently enough to muck with a bike bridge. That guy was a clueless, illiterate dinosaur. I'm glad to hear that Chicago has turned the corner on this issue. I hope the bridge gets built. Thanks for the report, Steven! -danny I grew up in the 50th Ward but moved to California over a decade ago. Its weird to hear that Bernie Stone is still alive, much less in power recently enough to muck with a bike bridge. That guy was a clueless, illiterate dinosaur. I’m glad to hear that Chicago has turned the corner on this issue. I hope the bridge gets built. Thanks for the report, Steven!

-danny

]]> By: Daniel Howard http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-394 Daniel Howard Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:47:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-394 I grew up in the 50th Ward but moved to California over a decade ago. Its weird to hear that Bernie Stone is still alive, much less in power recently enough to muck with a bike bridge. That guy was a clueless, illiterate dinosaur. I'm glad to hear that Chicago has turned the corner on this issue. I hope the bridge gets built. Thanks for the report, Steven! -danny I grew up in the 50th Ward but moved to California over a decade ago. Its weird to hear that Bernie Stone is still alive, much less in power recently enough to muck with a bike bridge. That guy was a clueless, illiterate dinosaur. I’m glad to hear that Chicago has turned the corner on this issue. I hope the bridge gets built. Thanks for the report, Steven!

-danny

]]> By: John Wirtz http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-392 John Wirtz Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:38:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-392 I went this way today on my bike. It's a freaking mess. You're coming south down the trail, then it just ends at Lincoln. I guess you're supposed to bike on the sidewalk, cross the north leg of Kedzie, bike north a few hundred feet in the bike lane, then make a left turn across southbound traffic onto a narrow sidewalk that eventually connects to the trail. Maybe it would be easier to take a right on Lincoln, go south on Jersey, and then stay on the west side of the channel until Bryn Mawr. Another good option that I should have remembered is to just ride on Kedzie from Howard to Lincoln. It's a fast bike route if you ignore the unwarranted stop signs. I went this way today on my bike. It’s a freaking mess. You’re coming south down the trail, then it just ends at Lincoln. I guess you’re supposed to bike on the sidewalk, cross the north leg of Kedzie, bike north a few hundred feet in the bike lane, then make a left turn across southbound traffic onto a narrow sidewalk that eventually connects to the trail.

Maybe it would be easier to take a right on Lincoln, go south on Jersey, and then stay on the west side of the channel until Bryn Mawr. Another good option that I should have remembered is to just ride on Kedzie from Howard to Lincoln. It’s a fast bike route if you ignore the unwarranted stop signs.

]]> By: Rob Gillis http://gridchicago.com/2011/will-the-new-50th-ward-alderman-build-the-bike-bridge-berny-blocked/#comment-391 Rob Gillis Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:36:00 +0000 http://gridchicago.com/?p=704#comment-391 A canoe launch was put there? That benefits what percentage of the people? But I guess it takes 200 jetskis off the canal so it can be justified instead of a bike bridge. A canoe launch was put there? That benefits what percentage of the people? But I guess it takes 200 jetskis off the canal so it can be justified instead of a bike bridge.

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